by carl wilson

Survey: Hello, Turrronnto!
(Goodbye, Gig Guide?)

I have a question: How much do local readers use the Zoilus "gig guide" nowadays? I ask because, as you might have noticed, it's gotten tougher for me and my little team of helpers to keep up with the listings the past few months, as we've all been extra-busy. Would you be just as happy with just a list of upcoming highlights (perhaps an expanded version of the "top shows" list in the sidebar to your left?) or is the comprehensive list still important to you? Please advise in the comments - thanks!

(PS: The first draft of the April calendar is now up and there are tons of exciting things coming our way. Send in your additions and amendments too.)

Via Toronto | Posted by zoilus on Tuesday, March 25 at 2:03 PM | Linking Posts | Comments (27)

 

COMMENTS

Your gig guide is the first thing I check for music week to week. Please don't let it fade away.

Posted by gracingthestage on April 7, 2008 7:38 PM

 

 

I hope you decide to keep the gig guide. It truly is one of the best single sources for Toronto area shows.

Posted by ken on April 6, 2008 9:37 AM

 

 

please don't axe the listings guide-- your "top picks" are diverse, but they in no way replace a comprehensive guide that covers shows that are often not listed in the alt-weeklies. It provides a really great service, that as far as I know isn't provided by anybody else in Toronto.

Posted by cee on April 5, 2008 2:40 PM

 

 

Please keep it going. Your "top show" picks are diverse, but it really doesn't replace having a comprehensive list of shows.

Posted by cee on April 5, 2008 2:32 PM

 

 

keep the list as per your own favourings.

you aren't all things to all people in your writings,

why should you want to be in your listings?

Posted by nilan on March 31, 2008 9:52 PM

 

 

it's my main source! don't get rid of it!

Posted by andrew on March 28, 2008 5:21 PM

 

 

I think you should do whatever works for you, Carl!

Maybe, if people really, really love the GG & depend exclusively on it, they should send a little honorarium for your volunteers' troubles & diligence.

I wonder how many people get that you have a full-time job aside from this, *and* you're writing books, *and* you're maintaining this wonderful **ad-free** site - *and* you're staying in the loop about everything interesting happening in this town that might not be covered elsewhere.

In short, we love you.
xx

p.s. If yr tired of the whole worry/maintenance aspect of the GG, you should also just do what's best for you, since unlike the weeklies, this is a labour of love.

Posted by Claire de la Lune on March 28, 2008 9:31 AM

 

 

I love the gig guide. You often have world music shows with stars at them and shows that the weeklies don't notice. They can be out of date, which sometimes sucks, but it is a great thing. I would be sad if you'd discontinue it.

Posted by kim on March 27, 2008 2:54 PM

 

 

I like it! Keep it around!

Posted by Chandler on March 27, 2008 2:33 AM

 

 

I don't live in Toronto, and I don't go out much in my home city either. All the same, I look at the gig guide sometimes just to see the range of what's out there. It's informative and astonishing. Sometimes, I'll see a name here, and connect it to MP3s elsewhere, to my frequent benefit.

Posted by Sara on March 26, 2008 7:53 PM

 

 

Carl,
The Gig Guide is essential. Its the most comprehensive and accessible I've seen. I use it exclusively. Stillepost just doesn't cut it in this city, its great for Hamilton and Halifax, but not here.

Just finished the 33 1/3 book, its really great. I've read a few of them and this is close to the best.

Posted by NFKids on March 26, 2008 12:15 PM

 

 

Its nice, but don't use it Carl.

Posted by thomas on March 26, 2008 11:44 AM

 

 

Carl:

Several audience members have mentioned that they were enticed to check out Somewhere There after noticing the number of shows here that you were giving stars in the gig guide. To my mind, it serves an invaluable critical role, not merely an informative one, that complements the reviews, previews, and analyses.

I do know what it's like to be stretched to the limits of my own volunteerism, so I cannot fault you if you opt to get rid of the GG. For what it's worth -- delegation being often as much work as execution -- I'd be happy to solicit the AIMToronto membership in case another volunteer or two would keep the guide alive.

Posted by Somewhere There on March 26, 2008 9:22 AM

 

 

The comprehensive Gig Guide has proven invaluable, not only when I'm back in Toronto, but also for getting a sense of who's booking what these days. I'd be sad to see it go, too.

Posted by Ryshpan on March 26, 2008 9:01 AM

 

 

Mr. Zoilus, please don't ditch the list.

It brings together diverse listings in an easy to follow format.

In Eye and Now, these listings would be spread over many difficult-to-follow pages. Here, it's much more concise, and I trust your recommendations more than theirs.

You've always been very responsive to my emails about shows (not just my own) - you've even 'starred' them a couple of times. I'm sure I'm not alone in that experience.

For instance, certain reggae events which don't get mentioned at all in the weeklies or any of the other indie-rock centric news sources are often highlighted in your listings.

Your listings say more about the variety of music going on in this city than any other source, and you have a devoted following who pays attention.

I'm sure it's a pain to compile it all, but hey, maybe you can download the task entirely to Erella and Chris and give 'em more money :)

Posted by dacks on March 26, 2008 8:05 AM

 

 

I do glance at your gig list on occasion, but honestly, with all the concert research I put in myself, most of the shows that you've listed I usually already know about. I do appreciate your "Top Shows This Week" section in your sidebar though...keep that and maybe expand it if you wish. I like that section if only as a reminder of other shows going on aside from the usual indie fare I list at my site.

Posted by mike on March 26, 2008 12:14 AM

 

 

zoilus recommended? please keep this, at the very least; it's a favourite reference of mine.

i tend to rely on zoilus for all listings, but would learn to look elsewhere if the list shrunk to recommendations only.

Posted by a.raw on March 25, 2008 11:33 PM

 

 

Hi -- I occasionally check your listings, but mostly I use venue sites and Stille Post to compile my own. I don't include absolutely everything, but it still takes hours each week to do it. Check out my current list here: http://historyjen.blogspot.com/2008/03/indie-music-28.html.

Posted by Jen on March 25, 2008 8:57 PM

 

 

I'd be happy with yr recommended, best-of-the-month shows myself, but then I hardly get out any more either.

Posted by Jason on March 25, 2008 5:59 PM

 

 

I don't listen to live music and as such don't read the listings.

Posted by Matt Collins on March 25, 2008 5:45 PM

 

 

I didn't know about it - I've always read your posts via a feed reader.

But now that I know about the listings, I do intend to use it. It would get me out to more shows - I tend to see bands I already know, which isn't the best way to discover something new.

Posted by Luke on March 25, 2008 4:48 PM

 

 

It's pretty much my only source for Toronto music listings, so I'd be sad to see it go.

Posted by Nick on March 25, 2008 3:56 PM

 

 

The Gig Guide is my primary source for music listings in the city; I find it easier to use and more trustworthy than any other. I imagine it's very labour intensive to produce, but I'd be sorry to see it go.

Posted by Jordan on March 25, 2008 3:44 PM

 

 

I find it useful. I mean, I prefer more listings. But, do what you can.

Posted by Adam on March 25, 2008 3:41 PM

 

 

I pretty much totally rely on the gig guide for my listings, so yes the comprehensive list is super important! a lifeline really!

Posted by andrew on March 25, 2008 3:21 PM

 

 

I wouldn't mind just the highlights; in fact, I would almost prefer an expurgated listing.

Posted by Alexander Arvelo McQuaig on March 25, 2008 2:51 PM

 

 

I don't read Eye or Now for listings anymore, so the Gig Guide and Soundlist provide most of my concert info. It isn't always foolproof, as I noted in my Deerhoof comment, but as the weather gets better I'm sure to use it.

Posted by Half on March 25, 2008 2:50 PM

 

 

 

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