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	<title>Comments on: Blended, Chopped &amp; Screwed</title>
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	<description>Carl Wilson on music, arts and culture</description>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.zoilus.com/documents/general/2009/001392.php/comment-page-1#comment-5602</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 19:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I stand corrected on point B.  Sasha's right.

Yeah, I've heard that about Creem.  I've never read it -- which probably means I shouldn't make sweeping statements about music mags.  Let's put it this way: Blender was way funnier than Rolling Stone, Spin, Mojo, Vibe, XXL, The Source, Downbeat, and Sing out!

RE: Creem: It kind of beggars belief that anything Dave Marsh was involved with could have sense of humor -- even if Lester Bangs was on the masthead too.  Marsh's funnybone must have been amputated somewhere along the line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I stand corrected on point B.  Sasha&#8217;s right.</p>
<p>Yeah, I&#8217;ve heard that about Creem.  I&#8217;ve never read it &#8212; which probably means I shouldn&#8217;t make sweeping statements about music mags.  Let&#8217;s put it this way: Blender was way funnier than Rolling Stone, Spin, Mojo, Vibe, XXL, The Source, Downbeat, and Sing out!</p>
<p>RE: Creem: It kind of beggars belief that anything Dave Marsh was involved with could have sense of humor &#8212; even if Lester Bangs was on the masthead too.  Marsh&#8217;s funnybone must have been amputated somewhere along the line.</p>
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		<title>By: zoilus</title>
		<link>http://www.zoilus.com/documents/general/2009/001392.php/comment-page-1#comment-5598</link>
		<dc:creator>zoilus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 17:58:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The funniest music mag ever was Creem, but yeah, at least Blender was  funny.

Obviously it was unrockist, but no one said it was indiscriminately omnivorous. Sasha's line was about its "knowingness," which I think is a direct hit on where the cultural snobbery goes once the high-low, rockist-unrockist hierarchies are moved past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The funniest music mag ever was Creem, but yeah, at least Blender was  funny.</p>
<p>Obviously it was unrockist, but no one said it was indiscriminately omnivorous. Sasha&#8217;s line was about its &#8220;knowingness,&#8221; which I think is a direct hit on where the cultural snobbery goes once the high-low, rockist-unrockist hierarchies are moved past.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.zoilus.com/documents/general/2009/001392.php/comment-page-1#comment-5597</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Apr 2009 10:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blender was the funniest music mag ever.  By far.  Which was a breath of fresh air.

Also, Blender wasn't indiscriminately omnivorous.  It was just refreshingly (wait for it) unrockist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blender was the funniest music mag ever.  By far.  Which was a breath of fresh air.</p>
<p>Also, Blender wasn&#8217;t indiscriminately omnivorous.  It was just refreshingly (wait for it) unrockist.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan,
Sasha's comment devalues "omnivore" on the grounds of its lackadaisical indiscrimination.  A palette that says, "It's all tasty!" ("sexy/gross/wacky") isn't very interesting -- it's superficial; whereas the genre/fan mags are passionate (I'd include classical and jazz mags too, but don't know how they're faring), or at least very engaged (what Sasha's saying), as is the approach of Carl's book; which is, "yes, I hate this, but others love it -- WHY?"
Rolling Stone survives by being People for pop fans with first-rate left-leaning political reporting -- both of which aspects I like.  I like its music writing better than Mojo or Uncut too, both of which seem *too* classic-rock-nostalgia focused.
I never read Blender, so can't say.  Never read Spin either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan,<br />
Sasha&#8217;s comment devalues &#8220;omnivore&#8221; on the grounds of its lackadaisical indiscrimination.  A palette that says, &#8220;It&#8217;s all tasty!&#8221; (&#8221;sexy/gross/wacky&#8221;) isn&#8217;t very interesting &#8212; it&#8217;s superficial; whereas the genre/fan mags are passionate (I&#8217;d include classical and jazz mags too, but don&#8217;t know how they&#8217;re faring), or at least very engaged (what Sasha&#8217;s saying), as is the approach of Carl&#8217;s book; which is, &#8220;yes, I hate this, but others love it &#8212; WHY?&#8221;<br />
Rolling Stone survives by being People for pop fans with first-rate left-leaning political reporting &#8212; both of which aspects I like.  I like its music writing better than Mojo or Uncut too, both of which seem *too* classic-rock-nostalgia focused.<br />
I never read Blender, so can&#8217;t say.  Never read Spin either.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://www.zoilus.com/documents/general/2009/001392.php/comment-page-1#comment-5581</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 20:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Sasha. The incomprehension is mutual -- I wasn't much of a Blender reader, and was therefore unable to follow your and Carl's uses of the words omnivore and omnivorism.
(I did used to read Omni. Just for the fantasy art.)
I enjoy a good general critique of an editorial stance. From here, this critique seems to be of the me-popist-you-rockist form, the "you say you listen to everything but what about Britney what about country" refrain, the denial-of-(your)-pleasure attack. I simultaneously sympathize with and cringe at this line of argument. I too want to point to the action, and be pointed there. But that I too is so close to me too -- there's no grounding for that metaphysics of taste, except the usual might making right.
Let me beat you to it: I'm sure I don't understand what I've just written either. But I still have no idea what devalues omnivore in your comment.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sasha. The incomprehension is mutual &#8212; I wasn&#8217;t much of a Blender reader, and was therefore unable to follow your and Carl&#8217;s uses of the words omnivore and omnivorism.<br />
(I did used to read Omni. Just for the fantasy art.)<br />
I enjoy a good general critique of an editorial stance. From here, this critique seems to be of the me-popist-you-rockist form, the &#8220;you say you listen to everything but what about Britney what about country&#8221; refrain, the denial-of-(your)-pleasure attack. I simultaneously sympathize with and cringe at this line of argument. I too want to point to the action, and be pointed there. But that I too is so close to me too &#8212; there&#8217;s no grounding for that metaphysics of taste, except the usual might making right.<br />
Let me beat you to it: I&#8217;m sure I don&#8217;t understand what I&#8217;ve just written either. But I still have no idea what devalues omnivore in your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Apr 2009 18:17:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jordan I am interested in your opinion on this issue but I actually have no idea what you mean. What do you mean?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jordan I am interested in your opinion on this issue but I actually have no idea what you mean. What do you mean?</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, *what* about omnivorism? I get the impression you're talking about eating everything down one aisle of the grocery store, in the grocery store, not to speak ill of the closed-down.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, *what* about omnivorism? I get the impression you&#8217;re talking about eating everything down one aisle of the grocery store, in the grocery store, not to speak ill of the closed-down.</p>
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		<title>By: Matos W.K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matos W.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You bring up Mojo and Uncut--that's basically what RS is doing more of (features on Rush and Pink Floyd tied to nothing in particular), and what Spin has been doing a lot of over the past three years. I don't think it's a coincidence that this switchover has improved Spin tremendously, and that they've been better than either Blender or RS for much of that time.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You bring up Mojo and Uncut&#8211;that&#8217;s basically what RS is doing more of (features on Rush and Pink Floyd tied to nothing in particular), and what Spin has been doing a lot of over the past three years. I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a coincidence that this switchover has improved Spin tremendously, and that they&#8217;ve been better than either Blender or RS for much of that time.</p>
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		<title>By: carl</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That seems dead on to me, Sasha. The thing about the omnivore is that it's a leveling stance - everything is equivalent to everything else - and that definitely seemed the case with Blender, with its kind of laddish omnivorism that found something sexy-gross-wacky in everything. Yes, nothing human should be alien to us, but the thornier, more rewarding thing is to get that just because it's not alien doesn't mean you understand it, that everything human is specific and tricky. Still that's a confusing set of metrics through which to understand the commercial success or failure of a magazine - though there is something to the fact that The New Yorker, with its continual interest in *detail*, survives through wave after wave of media fashions.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That seems dead on to me, Sasha. The thing about the omnivore is that it&#8217;s a leveling stance - everything is equivalent to everything else - and that definitely seemed the case with Blender, with its kind of laddish omnivorism that found something sexy-gross-wacky in everything. Yes, nothing human should be alien to us, but the thornier, more rewarding thing is to get that just because it&#8217;s not alien doesn&#8217;t mean you understand it, that everything human is specific and tricky. Still that&#8217;s a confusing set of metrics through which to understand the commercial success or failure of a magazine - though there is something to the fact that The New Yorker, with its continual interest in *detail*, survives through wave after wave of media fashions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if the multi-faceted slickness was itself a problem? This isn't to say that Blender didn't have some solid articles, but personally, I find that the glib, all-embracing, all-knowing model ("i know your game, Cyndi Lauper. I know your game, Bohren.") can be as irritating and boring as a rockist model, because it involves zero personal risk. The model is like accusing someone of taking something too seriously in order to dismiss an argument: Attacking the seemingly lackadaisical nature of that accusation always makes the accused seem defensive.
This is of course also not to say that I'm equating this to the call for more acceptance that your book implies; but the kind you ask for really implicates you in an ongoing wrestling match with your concerns &amp; frustrations, whereas the "i like this, i like this" hysteria of the cultural omnivore does not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if the multi-faceted slickness was itself a problem? This isn&#8217;t to say that Blender didn&#8217;t have some solid articles, but personally, I find that the glib, all-embracing, all-knowing model (&#8221;i know your game, Cyndi Lauper. I know your game, Bohren.&#8221;) can be as irritating and boring as a rockist model, because it involves zero personal risk. The model is like accusing someone of taking something too seriously in order to dismiss an argument: Attacking the seemingly lackadaisical nature of that accusation always makes the accused seem defensive.<br />
This is of course also not to say that I&#8217;m equating this to the call for more acceptance that your book implies; but the kind you ask for really implicates you in an ongoing wrestling match with your concerns &#038; frustrations, whereas the &#8220;i like this, i like this&#8221; hysteria of the cultural omnivore does not.</p>
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