by carl wilson

How the Hell Are You, Blue Roses

Details have been announced on the upcoming Hello, Blue Roses album, that being the duo of Dan Destroyer Bejar and Sydney Hermant/Vermont. The quote from Dan in the P'fork story is equal parts vinegar and honey, just like Hello, Blue Roses music.

On the argue-about-things front, some responses to recent writings by Frank Kogan and others are forthcomingish.

General | Posted by zoilus on Tuesday, November 06 at 6:13 PM | Linking Posts | Comments (2)



But Liquid Liquid and other early postpunk bands employed African-American or caribbean rhythms while still defining themselves in opposition to the mainstream as did the Clash and others--including acts throughout the 80s, 90s and the present(not mentioned by SFJ) (see the Will Hermes NY Times article that while focussing in part on indie acts incorporating Eastern European sounds also touches on ones incorporating African sounds).

Regarding the bohemian versus mainstream class discussion that Frank mentions, I am still wondering if these differences within the same middle class strata are any different in 2007 than they were in 1997 or 1987 or 1977 and on back. I do not know how the data on the growing upper class and shrinking middle class, and which ends of the middle class fit into 80s hardcore or today's indie scenes works out. Frank in a posting on poptimists talks about bohemians wishing to reject mainstream culture aspects that are everywhere. How has this changed over the years if it has, and is the historical white bohemian interest in minority culture any different now than it was in the past.

Posted by Curm on November 7, 2007 10:58 AM



Kogan's piece is interesting. He says: 'An answer to the question “Why isn’t black music the model for today’s bohemia?” could be “because it’s the model for the modern mainstream.”'

This is very close to the kind of point I was trying to make in my own blog posts about this issue. Indie defines itself in opposition to the mainstream, therefore it on balance avoids the styles employed in the mainstream. Etc.

Posted by Richard on November 7, 2007 9:25 AM




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